Episode 03: The one with Pepper

Meet Pepper

Pepper is the youngest Francis daughter and occasional guest on Midlife Moves.

With her sharp wit, honesty, and fresh perspective, she brings a fun intergenerational voice to the conversation.

Whether she’s talking about the ups and downs of teen life or weighing in on midlife topics from her own lens, Pepper adds humor, candor, and heart to the show

What happens when your teenage daughter becomes your gym buddy, your favorite dinner date, and your accidental co-host? In this episode of Midlife Moves, Heather sits down with her daughter, Pepper, for a candid, hilarious, and unexpectedly emotional conversation.

They play Who Knows Who Better, swap stories about coffee orders and crushes, and open up about how their relationship has evolved through mental health struggles, big life shifts, and the weird magic of becoming best friends over time.

Whether you're a mom, a daughter, or just someone navigating the growing pains of life and love—this episode will make you laugh, maybe cry, and definitely text someone you love.

🎧 Topics include:

• The shift from “parenting” to “partnering”

• How mental health changed their dynamic

• Why Pepper is getting a spine tattoo (and who’s not thrilled)

• The unspoken rules of Snapchat boys 😅